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Swords, Sorcery, And Then Some!
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Written by Scott T. Hicken with art by Antipus, the comic updates Mondays. Please check out the Archive to enjoy the earlier adventures of Typh and Peonie!
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Aren’t Peonie’s eyes brown? That would make her mother brown-eyed if genetics works the same in Exiern as it does in ours. Though hair-color seems to be different at any rate. (Blond beats brown, red beats blond.)
Neither, it’s correct grammar. “We and the Queen” if royal we, or “The Queen and I” otherwise. If you would use “I” in a sentence if alone, you still you “I” when including someone. For instance, “I will go to the store” becomes “Ben and I will go to the store,” not “Ben and me will go to the store.” Otherwise, take out Ben and you have “Me will go to the store,” which is incorrect.
I don’t really care if it’s more correct or not, “the queen and me” sounds awkward. “The queen and I” flows better and I think is the more likely to be used by most people. It’s informal dialog, I think the only standard should be if it sounds right and can be understood, since most people don’t speak with perfect grammar at all times.
Assassins don’t give refunds. If they fail in their duty, they’re usually killed off as being unworthy. That little “yes” man is a creepy little dude, isn’t he? He looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy with his head on a plate.
Does anybody else “hear” Peter Lorre when the evil midget speak? And Dean is is right, creepy midgets are ALWAYS evil, regardless of facial hair status.
Okay, Terry has been an official royal Queen for what? 5 minutes? Why is everyone including her in how Princess P-cups was raised? o_O
Also, isn’t the ‘head’ of the local Assassins’ Guild bed-buddies of Kingie? And don’t tell me that she would just turn a blindeye to a request for a hit on him simply because of ‘professional curtesy’ (the fact he ‘married’ Terry on the otherhand… and she may have arranged for it personally 😛 )
@Guesticus From what I know of Tyrion he is a good person, who while manipulative tends to want to do the right thing, and whose only real crime is loyalty to a family that doesn’t deserve it. One of my favorite parts about him is that he is the only person willing to tell off his psycho nephew.
@Guesticus: I don’t really see the nobles’ assertion as including the Queen in Peonie’s upbringing, simply that they disapprove of her opinion on Peonie’s attitude.
As for Tyrion, I haven’t read the books, but everything I’ve seen of him in the TV series makes him seem like a decent person, simply far too loyal to his family, which is made of people who are just generally horrible.
@Random spectator, in this case it would be “the Queen and ME” unless perhaps we’re doing a bit of Shakespeare, which we are not.
“The Queen and I” would be used when at the subject of a sentence or after a linking verb like “is.” “The royalty court here now is the Queen and I.”
“The Queen and me” should be used here because they are the object of the active verb “befall.”
To avoid confusion, before typing the sentence, always run the pronoun alone before mixing in proper names and titles.
Does “should trouble befall I” sound right? No. Therefore, “should trouble befall the Queen and I” would not be right either.
Then again, the good king Urtica is a king first, and a scholar second. He may not be an expert in grammar, or the English in Exiern’s world is just a tiny bit different than ours. Since it’s dialogue, and is generally understood by other characters and the audience, pointing out grammar errors is a bit extraneous.
No offence guys but my mom was a Teacher in Britain and I had enough Correct grammar as a kid to know it’s nether functional or correct.
People just do not Speak such in the real world. And I had enough of it to make my childhood hell and me a neurotic mess…I mean do you know the kind of beating you get in Liverpool for saying “For Whom” In class room were the other 8 year old all had piercings.
So can we all please put it down to..
1 he is the king no one would in real life correct him.
2 Literary / Poetic Licence ..
@Guesticus: I’m assuming the “Assassins Guild” is a separate, possibly competing, organization from “The Theater”. Probably from the ladies own country.
I wonder if she’s humming a “let’s all get along well enough for nobody to get killed at my wedding reception” tune. Since Urtica tends to grate on people at the best of times, his attitude would be the most obviously affected.
@Frith Ra: Oops, I was mistaken earlier. I was only looking at the quote out of context, not in the comic itself. It should probably be along the lines of “if something should happen to the queen and myself,” but that’s just awkward. Blargh. I wish that there was a post editing feature for these replies. Consider my earlier grammar stickler comment voided, in the interest of it being a weird case for which it’s hard to figure out the proper wording.
On the subject of the queen’s humming, some kind of subtle (relatively speaking) spellsinging seems probable, given that it’s unlikely for Urtica to have arranged for her to be mind controlled given how many more problems that would create than solve.
Also, am I the only one who wonders if this marriage WASN’T the king calling in the favor she owes him for interceding on her behalf with the church of REM? If it wasn’t, and I have reasons to suspect that being the case, then what will he eventually ask her to do? I doubt that he’ll let that particular favor stay unused for very long, for story reasons.
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Still don’t like how assassins are presented in fiction. They’d better be willing to give them a refund.
Why not Ether, what about it is a dislike to you?
does everyone have blue eye in the alliance?
Aren’t Peonie’s eyes brown? That would make her mother brown-eyed if genetics works the same in Exiern as it does in ours. Though hair-color seems to be different at any rate. (Blond beats brown, red beats blond.)
Shouldn’t his reply be ‘the queen and me’, or is this some variant of the royal ‘we’?
Neither, it’s correct grammar. “We and the Queen” if royal we, or “The Queen and I” otherwise. If you would use “I” in a sentence if alone, you still you “I” when including someone. For instance, “I will go to the store” becomes “Ben and I will go to the store,” not “Ben and me will go to the store.” Otherwise, take out Ben and you have “Me will go to the store,” which is incorrect.
@Random Spectator: Hmm, “If something terrible befall I, it is my …”
I’m not so certain that qualifies as good grammar
‘the queen and ME’. Object of preposition.
I don’t really care if it’s more correct or not, “the queen and me” sounds awkward. “The queen and I” flows better and I think is the more likely to be used by most people. It’s informal dialog, I think the only standard should be if it sounds right and can be understood, since most people don’t speak with perfect grammar at all times.
Uh oh, the game is a foot.
There’s discord with in the Kingdom.
Um … someone’s up to something.
It just occured to me that Teresa is humming this entire time. Is she talking between the humming or is she singing when she is talking to people?
@Fenix – she is interrupting her humming to speak, and then resuming.
Can I exchange this murder for another of equal or lesser value?
😀
Assassins don’t give refunds. If they fail in their duty, they’re usually killed off as being unworthy. That little “yes” man is a creepy little dude, isn’t he? He looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy with his head on a plate.
Creepy little dude lacks a goatee and thus cannot be truly evil. 🙂
Creepy midgets are ALWAYS evil. They’re an exception to the goatee rule.
Does anybody else “hear” Peter Lorre when the evil midget speak? And Dean is is right, creepy midgets are ALWAYS evil, regardless of facial hair status.
In the last panel, the midget looks like George Takei.
Reminds me more of Peter Lorre
@Dean What about Tyrion Lannister from A Song Of Ice And Fire/A Game Of Thrones?
Okay, Terry has been an official royal Queen for what? 5 minutes? Why is everyone including her in how Princess P-cups was raised? o_O
Also, isn’t the ‘head’ of the local Assassins’ Guild bed-buddies of Kingie? And don’t tell me that she would just turn a blindeye to a request for a hit on him simply because of ‘professional curtesy’ (the fact he ‘married’ Terry on the otherhand… and she may have arranged for it personally 😛 )
Ben: from what have seen of Tyrion, he is a creepy evil little bastard (same as Trask)
@Guesticus From what I know of Tyrion he is a good person, who while manipulative tends to want to do the right thing, and whose only real crime is loyalty to a family that doesn’t deserve it. One of my favorite parts about him is that he is the only person willing to tell off his psycho nephew.
“My daughter a dick, Kill me you get her” “Assassin guild I need a refund and cancellation..”
Simple but effective I like it.
King Urtica knows nobles and how to deal with them. Also good for Queen Teresa.
King Urtica knows nobles are always plotting something and how to deal with them he wouldn’t be king long if he didn’t
@Marika AGREED
@Guesticus: I don’t really see the nobles’ assertion as including the Queen in Peonie’s upbringing, simply that they disapprove of her opinion on Peonie’s attitude.
As for Tyrion, I haven’t read the books, but everything I’ve seen of him in the TV series makes him seem like a decent person, simply far too loyal to his family, which is made of people who are just generally horrible.
I watched partway through the second season. Tyrion is the only one who isn’t a monster.
@Random spectator, in this case it would be “the Queen and ME” unless perhaps we’re doing a bit of Shakespeare, which we are not.
“The Queen and I” would be used when at the subject of a sentence or after a linking verb like “is.” “The royalty court here now is the Queen and I.”
“The Queen and me” should be used here because they are the object of the active verb “befall.”
To avoid confusion, before typing the sentence, always run the pronoun alone before mixing in proper names and titles.
Does “should trouble befall I” sound right? No. Therefore, “should trouble befall the Queen and I” would not be right either.
Then again, the good king Urtica is a king first, and a scholar second. He may not be an expert in grammar, or the English in Exiern’s world is just a tiny bit different than ours. Since it’s dialogue, and is generally understood by other characters and the audience, pointing out grammar errors is a bit extraneous.
No offence guys but my mom was a Teacher in Britain and I had enough Correct grammar as a kid to know it’s nether functional or correct.
People just do not Speak such in the real world. And I had enough of it to make my childhood hell and me a neurotic mess…I mean do you know the kind of beating you get in Liverpool for saying “For Whom” In class room were the other 8 year old all had piercings.
So can we all please put it down to..
1 he is the king no one would in real life correct him.
2 Literary / Poetic Licence ..
I wound up with a stutter till I was 12.. Gods truth.
Nope, “Queen and me” is just plain WRONG!! (to quote Keven Spacey as Lex Luthor)
So who are these two mutants?
@Guesticus: I’m assuming the “Assassins Guild” is a separate, possibly competing, organization from “The Theater”. Probably from the ladies own country.
I wonder if she’s humming a “let’s all get along well enough for nobody to get killed at my wedding reception” tune. Since Urtica tends to grate on people at the best of times, his attitude would be the most obviously affected.
CaptXpendable: hmmm, hadn’t thought of that
Gin: what ever it is, it isn’t any Wedding Psalms
@Ragingagnostic She is asking about the refund in terms of I changed my mind about the purchase and the order has not been filled yet.
Also in case of failure the guild might give money or credit to the client along with killing the employee that botched the job.
Assassin’s guild, eh?
The assassin was found?
To shreds you say?
Only suspect nearby was a kind of rabbit you say?
Strange indeed.
@Frith Ra: Oops, I was mistaken earlier. I was only looking at the quote out of context, not in the comic itself. It should probably be along the lines of “if something should happen to the queen and myself,” but that’s just awkward. Blargh. I wish that there was a post editing feature for these replies. Consider my earlier grammar stickler comment voided, in the interest of it being a weird case for which it’s hard to figure out the proper wording.
On the subject of the queen’s humming, some kind of subtle (relatively speaking) spellsinging seems probable, given that it’s unlikely for Urtica to have arranged for her to be mind controlled given how many more problems that would create than solve.
Also, am I the only one who wonders if this marriage WASN’T the king calling in the favor she owes him for interceding on her behalf with the church of REM? If it wasn’t, and I have reasons to suspect that being the case, then what will he eventually ask her to do? I doubt that he’ll let that particular favor stay unused for very long, for story reasons.
SOrry for the necro-post, but LOL!