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Family is…

by ScottHicken on April 3, 2014 at 5:13 am
Chapter: 23 - Cold Confrontation
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  1. Lioconvoy
    April 3, 2014, 5:39 am | # | Reply

    Knew that last comic wasn’t an April fools comic. Love that line at the end.

  2. Charles81
    April 3, 2014, 5:56 am | # | Reply

    Oh wow, who would have guessed she was his niece -_-

    Seriously though, awesome and unexpected move

  3. Random Gay Fan
    April 3, 2014, 6:30 am | # | Reply

    Aha!

  4. greenstalker
    April 3, 2014, 7:04 am | # | Reply

    I knew it april fool was last page being not an april fool :p

  5. Chellel
    April 3, 2014, 7:22 am | # | Reply

    awww… proud uncle 🙂

  6. Gallstone
    April 3, 2014, 7:26 am | # | Reply

    I think there are some things about the death of Red’s mum that we have yet to be told…

  7. Uhl
    April 3, 2014, 8:23 am | # | Reply

    So Grinka wants women, ALL WOMEN, to die kneeling and begging for mercy eh? Hey, Grinka, guess what. You’re a woman. It must suck that you didn’t get to die kneeling and begging, right?!

  8. Vicky
    April 3, 2014, 8:59 am | # | Reply

    I don’t comment on comics much, but that last line is awesome.

  9. Guesticus
    April 3, 2014, 10:12 am | # | Reply

    Sounds like Red Diana has chosen her place, and is happy/comfortable with it, not like Granny ever thought to ask

  10. Guesticus
    April 3, 2014, 10:14 am | # | Reply

    Uhl: at least she got the dieing part down flat

  11. Tj
    April 3, 2014, 11:09 am | # | Reply

    Love that guy so much, most of the times.

  12. ddqfpluskick
    April 3, 2014, 11:40 am | # | Reply

    Gonna go out and defend Grinka here

    Basically the woman had three sons and watched her entire family reduced to one female granddaughter that seemed to have no interest in anything other than fighting which even she admits will lead to her death. Over and over again she has watched leadership decisions result in more losses for her family. As a character she is trying to take action to keep whatever family she has left alive. Even she knows that the fragile peace will be shattered and war is on the horizon. So she wants to put a leader in a position that will defend her family from whatever happens. She sees the current chief as not being that person and knowing he is sleeping with her granddaughter that Diana will rush to his defense.

  13. Cerulean Lion
    April 3, 2014, 11:52 am | # | Reply

    That’s a decent defense of Grinka’s motives. Not so much her choice of action.
    There’s nothing wrong with wanting her grandchild to live. But she schemed to murder her chieftain and force Diana into a role she would have been miserable trying to play.

  14. ddqfpluskick
    April 3, 2014, 12:34 pm | # | Reply

    Looking at her past attempts to save her family this may have been the culmination of extreme measures created by past failures. She tried to turn Typhnee’s mother around to accept the barbarian way of life and failed. Then she tried to get her daughter in law spared, but failed. Each time there issue or pride kept getting in the way. No with a equally proud granddaughter endangering her life Grinka new there was no way to talk her down. In addition, she hate Typhnee’s family because his Dad got a trophy wife just to please himself and Wyll-Line only seems to care about restoring his family honor (in her eyes). The only course of action to remove Wyll-line. The only thing I would contest is why she thinks Typhnee will make a better leader?

  15. Christopher
    April 3, 2014, 3:21 pm | # | Reply

    @ddpfpluskick: One cannot stop conflict or the loss of loved ones. All those who try only cause more conflict and loss of live. If we are lucky, all they get killed is themself.
    That is a simple truth and the barbarians are simple people, they understand it.

  16. Tiger Tomcat
    April 3, 2014, 3:32 pm | # | Reply

    Love the look on Peonie’s face in the last panel. Wonder if Neils will talk to Diana before they head back south?

  17. Kouta
    April 3, 2014, 5:04 pm | # | Reply

    Grina’s not an extra, unarmoured, and caught by surprise, meaning she has 7 health levels, her lethal soak is zero, and her DV is zero.  She’s knocked incapacitated (or worse) in one blow, which usually means at least 17 damage dice. Hmm, let’s see here …

    Diana is heroic, and weilding a great axe. So, at least Strength 3 with +1 accuracy, +7L/2 damage, and 1 die from her stunt. Dexterity 3 and Melee 5 would give her 10 dice for her attack roll. So, 5 attack succeses, plus 3 from strength and 7 from the weapon gives 15 damage dice.

    Yup, definitely Neils’ neice.

    BTW, I play too much Exalted.

  18. Kartissa
    April 3, 2014, 6:34 pm | # | Reply

    @Kouta It’s not a great axe. She only held it with one hand. That said, it is ornate, and could be an artefact. Wrong colour for orichalcum or jade, so it’s either moonsilver, starmetal or soulsteel (my money’s on moonsilver!). Although since it wasn’t actually her axe, there’s a strong possibility she wasn’t attuned to it, which just makes her even more badass…

  19. Marika Oniki
    April 3, 2014, 8:38 pm | # | Reply

    @Kartissa while I haven’t had a chance to play, and know little of the rules, isn’t it possible to wield two-handed weapons one-handed?

  20. Kouta
    April 3, 2014, 8:42 pm | # | Reply

    @Marika Oniki You can, but the strength minimums go up. They’re tripled, IIRC.

  21. Orlah Ehontas
    April 3, 2014, 9:45 pm | # | Reply

    @ Marika Oniki – and if you use the AD&D rules (original, not the nerfed system they have now), Dexterity played a major role in the ability to use it as well.

    @ Kouta and Kartissa – not only was the axe wielded one handed, using the perspective provided in the second panel, that one is not much larger than a throwing axe. A very fancy and somewhat deadly throwing axe, but still just a shade larger than a throwing axe.

  22. chemiclord
    April 4, 2014, 12:53 am | # | Reply

    Well, it was a dwarven axe, so keep that in mind (though having not played Exalted, I’m not sure how that changes things).

  23. Mogster
    April 4, 2014, 3:46 am | # | Reply

    Neils still hasn’t told Diana, has he?

  24. Quartz
    April 4, 2014, 3:50 am | # | Reply

    Note the location of the blow: she’s gone through solid bone.

  25. Cannonshop
    April 4, 2014, 5:49 am | # | Reply

    It’s politics-without the annoying fancy dress. Diana the Red has simply put her support on the winning tactic a bit more directly than the so-called civilized folks down south.

  26. Phoebe
    April 4, 2014, 7:01 am | # | Reply

    Well, I guess the punishment for treason IS death in most societies…

  27. Jandalman
    April 4, 2014, 7:18 am | # | Reply

    I so desperately want to see the family reunion of badass barbarian lass and her equally badass armoured uncle.

  28. CPUGuy1
    April 4, 2014, 8:18 am | # | Reply

    It’s gone … Oh, I see it … Oh, Wait – it gone again …

    It’s the Mysterious Appearing Disappearing Necklace.

  29. Guesticus
    April 4, 2014, 8:22 am | # | Reply

    ddqfpluskick: nice attempt at defense, but what you fail to take into account is this: Granny didn’t just try and talk the outsider females (including her daughter-in-law) into being submissive and accepting their new inferior positions, she was the one who arranged for them to be killed, plus lead the Outsider Purge (probably not openly, but being the Matron, and in charge of the food, she would have had plenty of opportunity to whisper mistrust and evil worms into the gullible and stupid, like the dorf and that idiot Red Diana went through getting inside)

  30. greenstalker
    April 4, 2014, 8:24 am | # | Reply

    @CPUGuy1: It is a spoon from matrix it explains everything :p

  31. Jonathan Wint
    April 4, 2014, 10:41 am | # | Reply

    I say it again whether I am right or wrong about my theory that Granny was the mastermind behind the Ethnic Cleansing, If only in the sense she started the ball rolling, or out and out told the three Stooges “I help you become the Chief together you could never be a part , but You will do THIS FOR ME” So she could raise her Grandchild Properly..
    I am reasonable Certain RED HAD THE SAME THEORY!

  32. Jonathan Wint
    April 4, 2014, 10:48 am | # | Reply

    @ddqfpluskick make Typhnee will make a better leader?? Nope She knew that she could get rid of Typh she tainted with magic and if the sword broke the curse Like her Husband said it could then she have a MAN it charge..

    As for her Daughter in Law saving her?? were you read that? She was complaining about her Blood family dieing not outsiders.

  33. Rohap
    April 4, 2014, 11:07 am | # | Reply

    Anyone know why I imagined the last line with Deadpools voice? O.o

  34. Nick D Waters
    April 4, 2014, 11:59 am | # | Reply

    I think I’ve figured out what’s going on. The necklace signals the presence of two parallel realities. At some point, when the story diverges, the necklace will either disappear entirely, or remain.

  35. O.B Juan
    April 4, 2014, 5:39 pm | # | Reply

    @Nick: This sort of thing happens in staging big fight scenes. They have to do it several times to get all the angles. Sometimes the props department does not get the wardrobe and set prepared in the same way each time. In the end they have to cut together the different takes to get the final scene. And there you have it. Exiern spares no effort in giving you big budget Hollywood production values for your action/adventure pleasure. Just wait a few years and they will put out the revised ‘Director’s Version’ with new GCI buildings and animals in the background.

  36. Guesticus
    April 5, 2014, 10:16 am | # | Reply

    Niels is so proud that his niece just executed her Granny… wait, is that something he should be so proud about? o_O

  37. ribbitfrog
    April 5, 2014, 4:24 pm | # | Reply

    I don’t think he’s so much “proud” as he recognizes the symptoms. Bit of a family trait, I’d say…

  38. Cerulean Lion
    April 6, 2014, 9:21 am | # | Reply

    Proud that she’s a strong warrior who accepts her own death in battle.
    Proud that she plans to go out fighting when her time comes.

  39. Deceptobot
    April 7, 2014, 2:20 am | # | Reply

    I haven’t had a family history of murderous attacks one against another. I look like I have, but I haven’t. But if I did, I doubt I’d be giving the “attagirl” response,

    unless Niels is merely identifying her. “See there, the one with the red hair? That’s her.”

  40. Guesticus
    April 7, 2014, 11:10 am | # | Reply

    It almost looks like he his shaking his head in the last panel, more like a “Hyup, we’re related /sigh” (not that he won’t be happy to have her as family, just that his family is kinda brutal)

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