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by DanStanding on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 am
Posted In: 20 - The Wild North
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  1. Ether101
    January 3, 2013, 2:10 am | # | Reply

    Alright I wonder how wrong everybody is about this.

  2. Medron Pryde
    January 3, 2013, 2:36 am | # | Reply

    Different stories from different points of view. Well…this just got more interesting. Much more interesting…and I was already interested.

    I will be interested to see how these different stories weave together. 🙂

  3. GrimGhost
    January 3, 2013, 3:24 am | # | Reply

    Someone’s been watching RASHOMON.

  4. aRJay
    January 3, 2013, 4:35 am | # | Reply

    @GrimGhost Sounds like an old western to me, “The Outrage”.

  5. Anakha
    January 3, 2013, 8:00 am | # | Reply

    It should be neither, not niether. ^^

    Also: most Barbarian Cultures would go “You can keep what you kill” and not care about the Age, so I am inclined NOT to trust this particular version much.

    Still, interesting way for different pov`s to show the same thing, well done so far!

  6. Guesticus
    January 3, 2013, 8:15 am | # | Reply

    No, nononono, this is just getting into bullshit territory (ala, Marvel/DC re-writing entire backstories everytime they change letterers). Whats next? Someone entirely previously unheard of giving yet another POV saying how someone else cut Behr but ran off when Typh and Melanoma showed up, and why would Behr kill his wife after all this time?

    And, if this is true, can see the boys being forced to go along with the ‘exile’ thing… actually, no, can’t see that happening at all

    And that cut on Behr? No where near a ‘fatal gut wound’, it’s barely even a scratch, specially to someone like Behr

  7. Guesticus
    January 3, 2013, 8:18 am | # | Reply

    Sounds more like (and looks like) Typh came along while the hunters were in the process of killing Behr and attempted to step between them but one of the hunters had a greater reach

  8. deanatay
    January 3, 2013, 9:16 am | # | Reply

    Yeah, a lot of oddities here. The slashes across Ravner’s chest – chest, not gut – don’t look deep enough to be fatal. I suspect this is another facet of the truth, not the whole truth.

    Also, the hair color of the dwarf is not consistent at all between panels 1 and 4.

  9. JMV
    January 3, 2013, 9:31 am | # | Reply

    “Tis only a flesh wound!”

  10. chemiclord
    January 3, 2013, 10:37 am | # | Reply

    GrimGhost; I haven’t watched Rashomon in a couple years, to be truthful, but I do like it.

    This isn’t QUITE like Rashomon though… you’ll see it’s a bit different as more pieces start fitting together.

  11. The Slumbering Crocodile
    January 3, 2013, 10:57 am | # | Reply

    Can’t help but notice the lack of blood on Typh’s blade.

  12. Mr. Bill
    January 3, 2013, 3:02 pm | # | Reply

    “the hair color of the dwarf is not consistent at all between panels 1 and 4.”

    Simple explanation. The producers of the comic didn’t properly prepare the ‘stunt dwarf’ they used in filming the flashback scenes. (As required in all fantasy epics by the Union of Comic Retroactive Narratives, or Uni-Co-RN). Plus, I can totally see the shadow from the boom mike in the first panel.

  13. Corseted
    January 3, 2013, 5:29 pm | # | Reply

    The thong with the hair has happened before too. Half the hair was colored, other half was grey

  14. Corseted
    January 3, 2013, 5:29 pm | # | Reply

    Thing

  15. dragondeathlord
    January 3, 2013, 9:24 pm | # | Reply

    Well I can smell Bull Sh*T!

  16. Lurker
    January 4, 2013, 10:34 am | # | Reply

    > Typhan-knee had gotten the better of his father…

    English is not my native tongue, but AFAIK that means that Typh defeated his father (and gutted him in the process). That does not make much sense to me at this point.

  17. Lurker
    January 4, 2013, 10:35 am | # | Reply

    The link for “defeated” does not show clearly so here it is again:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/get_the_better_of

  18. Mogster
    January 4, 2013, 7:55 pm | # | Reply

    You’re correct, Lurker, so someone in the story is lying.

  19. wrulez
    January 4, 2013, 8:17 pm | # | Reply

    well, from what i see, maybe “gotten the better of” means he did better in the fight, and for him “killing his dad” maybe he did that so he wouldn’t die more painfully

  20. Valkyrie Ice
    January 4, 2013, 8:35 pm | # | Reply

    Watson, the game is afoot!

  21. Guesticus
    January 5, 2013, 5:41 am | # | Reply

    Maybe (and can’t believe giving the writer a possible explanation to cover this mess) they didn’t mean Behr was gutted literally, just figuratively (and that Behr was a giant girly blouse who would have sulked off into the wild and died from the humiliation if they hadn’t giving him a ‘warriors death’)

  22. Inconsiquential
    January 5, 2013, 5:47 pm | # | Reply

    Ok, here’s a theory (probably totally off) but given the 2 perspectives we’ve seen so far, I think Typh killed his mother. It’s been stated that Typh idolized his father…that Gillian never did adjust to her captivity…and if anyone could get close to Raviner, it would be Gillian, his wife.

    I think she’s the one that got close, caught Raviner completely unaware, and mortally wounded him (if those wounds on his chest were deep enough, they could’ve hit his lungs). Typh saw this and attacked/killed his mother in a failed attempt to save his father. Typh and Mel keep their mouths shut so not to dishonor their father’s name by letting it be known he was bested by a woman.

  23. Greenstalker
    January 5, 2013, 6:20 pm | # | Reply

    I think we will get at least one more point of view with denver and possibly another from shaman so it is still too early to make assumptions but considering what we know these two was there about same time as matron or a little bit earlier but these guys didn2t talk about Gillian yet.

  24. Guesticus
    January 5, 2013, 8:22 pm | # | Reply

    There is one person they have yet asked: Tiff herself

  25. Elfguy
    January 6, 2013, 1:52 am | # | Reply

    Old westerns? Sounds like part of the plot of Kamui No Ken to me!

  26. Gallstone
    January 6, 2013, 4:59 am | # | Reply

    Interesting…

    Gillian finally managing to stab the man who had enslaved and repeatedly raped her WOULD explain why Typhan felt his mother was to blame for his exile.

    On the other hand, if he was witness to his father hacking his mother apart for giving him lip, would it have upset him enough to attack Raviner?

  27. Guesticus
    January 6, 2013, 7:30 am | # | Reply

    The thing is: in the second panel, it looks more like young Typh is defending his father and Behrs is scowling at the trio rather than Typh

  28. Inconsiquential
    January 6, 2013, 10:56 am | # | Reply

    @Guesticus – which supports my theory that Typh killed his mother for attacking his father. Then these 3 show up and neither Raviner nor Typh know who’s side they’re on. Especially if they didn’t ask what was going on, simply saw Raviner in his condition and ‘showed him mercy’ without a word. That would also explain Mels seeking them out for killing his father. Neither of the boys would’ve thought it was a mercy killing if the trio didn’t say anything.

  29. Nssheepster
    January 6, 2013, 7:39 pm | # | Reply

    @Guesticus, if you notice where Behr is holding his hand, it could easily be concealing a stab wound to the upper stomach from the small blade the kid’s holding in the later panel. Even though they aren’t noted for their medical care, many barbarians realize a gut wound is a slow painful death. Even nowadays that still happens at times. A ripped stomach is a very bad wound. Which is one facet of why soldiers are, and always have, trained to aim for the body core.

  30. That one guy
    January 7, 2013, 7:53 am | # | Reply

    “Gotten the better of” and “gutted ” are idiomatic expressions which basically mean that Typhan-knee won the fight by stabbing Dad in the stomach.

  31. Guesticus
    January 7, 2013, 7:56 am | # | Reply

    Nssheepster: no, that’s still too high for a stomach/gut wound

    Inconsiquential has a point about them being so quick to provide a ‘mercy killing’ sounds like that was what they were really going there for, and simply found the job half-done and, like the craven cowards they are, simply finished him off

  32. Jo
    January 7, 2013, 3:28 pm | # | Reply

    I’m more interested in what they were going to confront him about that “doesn’t matter much to an outsider”.

    That could be the little gem of information that illuminates the entire story.

  33. Drop-Bear
    January 7, 2013, 9:41 pm | # | Reply

    you know a lot of the old westerns where rip-offs of Kitasawa movies right?

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