@ TrashMan – Keep in mind that given the general time period this is set in, the pot is quite likely made of cast iron (which is incredibly heavy), and it is filled with water (also very heavy. Added to that is the fact that Peonie is not used to manual labor – the old woman will have had years of experience of dealing with this sort of thing so she knows what she is doing and will have built up the muscles required to move it. If you keep to an exercise routine (in this case, lifting and moving heavy cookware every day), age won’t affect your strength too much.
Also, I’m no couch potato, but there’s no way I could lift the 110lbs that would be required for your last statement there to be true.
I have a cast iron Wak like that half the size 25 pounds. that might be steel but it looks just as thick so is as heavy as cast iron so say 50 pounds ? add in that its filled? 60? total of say 110 pounds. Dead lift no center of Gravity? The Princess has never worked out in her life. . .
No I would say that pictures about right.
@Jack Even these days, on working farms the women who do the work will probably be stronger than city boys (never mind city girls). Bonus points, the city boys who work out in a gym still lose to the old woman on the farm because of the difference between gym exercised muscles and muscles formed through work (with all the skills you develop therein) is huge. In short, never mess with farm girls, you will lose.
Anyway, as I understand it Peonie’s “land” has been “put to the torch” on a nightly basis…hur-hur-hur….wait that wasn’t a euphemism that time?
With everything else, Peonie’s posture was all wrong. You lift heavy objects (cast iron pots full of water and vegetables) with your legs not your back. You spread your legs a little bit, squat and then grabbing the pot from the handles,and finally push bottom upward with your legs. Peonie was leaning over, grabbing the handles and pulling top upward. It’s fortunate the old woman moved in when she did or Peonie may well have developed a hernia, herniated disk, or broken spine. None of these is fun. (I know personally about the first two.)
@dragondeathlord: careful with your math there, dude – when you double the dimensions of a three-dimensional object, you multiply its mass by 8 (2x2x2). A 200 lb wok, filled with another 50-100 lbs of water, is quite the feat of strength.
It can still be done, of course, but it would require someone used to that kind of lifting on a daily basis. And not just for the muscles – moving that kind of weight would require certain techniques of balance and support, so as not to throw out one’s back, hips or shoulders. Peonie has none of these.
A better question for the crowd: where is the woman going to put that? The fire pit seems designed to suspend the pot by a single hook, yet I see no chain connected to the pot. The pot has four handles, but I see no way to connect four handles to a single hook. Is she just going to plunk the pot directly down on the fire? Or are there supports we simply don’t see?
It would appear that the Princess has a spell of weakness on her, every time she tries to lift even the lightest loads that normal people could carry, she fails miserably.
Perhaps King Urtica is to blame for this?
[OR she creates jello golems!]
you don’t leave metal chains dangling over an open flame if you have to, for starters it makes handling difficult and it weakens the metal especially at the welds. the support rig is likely hanging on a rack just out of shot, once she gets the pot over there she wil hook up the chains than hang the whole thing over the fire.
King Urtica > Barbarians.
That’s all you need to know. Really, the question is more why hasn’t he taken over them yet. Of course, whose to say he hasn’t, and is just keeping quiet about it?
The better question is, why would they load up such a huge pot all the way on the other side of the room, and then carry it full, all the way over to the fire pit? They should have just put the pot on first and then tossed in the ingredients.
Magically shrinking pots. Don’t know if the spell is on the pot or the old lady, but in panel 5 the pot is easily twice as wide as the old lady, in the last panel it is less than shoulder width. So, once she places her hands on it, it shrinks to half its former diameter, ~ 1/4 its former weight.
For those wonderuing about the pot and the tripod. Just atke alook at how many handles the pot has…3 and then at the tripod ..see those upward hooks…that is where the pot wil rest or in other words hang on. Its wight suported and dived by three bars.
@JMV actually there are two good answers as to why you fill up the pot “at the other end of the room.”
1.) Trying to fill the pot while it’s on the fire could cause damage to the pot (sudden change of temperature from cold water hitting hot metal), burn the food, or cause boiling water to splash people/ put out the fire.
2.) Trying to cut the vegetables and put them in the pot while near an open flame can and has caused severe injury and death, not to mention the danger of getting splashed with boiling water that I mentioned earlier.
It’s not likely that the Northern tribes will wait while a pot is filled with food before attempting to light the fire either since the fire is not exclusively used for cooking. The fire is also providing heat and light for the whole room.
So the old lady’s method is the most practical one for the situation.
My question is simpler than all this math. I was totally expecting her tp have to bend over. I’m feeling a bit let down here. All that build up about “harm”, a golden opportunity, and… Nada. Will this change soon? Please?
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I knew it, and I love it 😀
OMG Peonie’s hands touched to the pot. It is all over ALL OVER. One tribe of north vanished in one night.
Her expression on panels 1 and 2 is priceless. The determination in her face almost made me believe she’d pull it off. 😉
So I guess all Northen women are as strong as Tiff?
……Or is Pionie just incredibly weak?
Loving those legs…. >.>
The strength difference is indeed extreeme.
An old women lifts effortesly what a young woman cannot?
Even a couch potato should be able to lift roughly 2/3rds of his body weight.
@ TrashMan – Keep in mind that given the general time period this is set in, the pot is quite likely made of cast iron (which is incredibly heavy), and it is filled with water (also very heavy. Added to that is the fact that Peonie is not used to manual labor – the old woman will have had years of experience of dealing with this sort of thing so she knows what she is doing and will have built up the muscles required to move it. If you keep to an exercise routine (in this case, lifting and moving heavy cookware every day), age won’t affect your strength too much.
Also, I’m no couch potato, but there’s no way I could lift the 110lbs that would be required for your last statement there to be true.
I have a cast iron Wak like that half the size 25 pounds. that might be steel but it looks just as thick so is as heavy as cast iron so say 50 pounds ? add in that its filled? 60? total of say 110 pounds. Dead lift no center of Gravity? The Princess has never worked out in her life. . .
No I would say that pictures about right.
@Jack Even these days, on working farms the women who do the work will probably be stronger than city boys (never mind city girls). Bonus points, the city boys who work out in a gym still lose to the old woman on the farm because of the difference between gym exercised muscles and muscles formed through work (with all the skills you develop therein) is huge. In short, never mess with farm girls, you will lose.
Anyway, as I understand it Peonie’s “land” has been “put to the torch” on a nightly basis…hur-hur-hur….wait that wasn’t a euphemism that time?
With everything else, Peonie’s posture was all wrong. You lift heavy objects (cast iron pots full of water and vegetables) with your legs not your back. You spread your legs a little bit, squat and then grabbing the pot from the handles,and finally push bottom upward with your legs. Peonie was leaning over, grabbing the handles and pulling top upward. It’s fortunate the old woman moved in when she did or Peonie may well have developed a hernia, herniated disk, or broken spine. None of these is fun. (I know personally about the first two.)
Although I’m trying to figure out how a single hook on a tripod is going to hold that pot…
@dragondeathlord: careful with your math there, dude – when you double the dimensions of a three-dimensional object, you multiply its mass by 8 (2x2x2). A 200 lb wok, filled with another 50-100 lbs of water, is quite the feat of strength.
It can still be done, of course, but it would require someone used to that kind of lifting on a daily basis. And not just for the muscles – moving that kind of weight would require certain techniques of balance and support, so as not to throw out one’s back, hips or shoulders. Peonie has none of these.
A better question for the crowd: where is the woman going to put that? The fire pit seems designed to suspend the pot by a single hook, yet I see no chain connected to the pot. The pot has four handles, but I see no way to connect four handles to a single hook. Is she just going to plunk the pot directly down on the fire? Or are there supports we simply don’t see?
It would appear that the Princess has a spell of weakness on her, every time she tries to lift even the lightest loads that normal people could carry, she fails miserably.
Perhaps King Urtica is to blame for this?
[OR she creates jello golems!]
@deanatay, Look again at the fire pit. There is a single hook on a chain, and three additional hooks, one on each leg of the tripod.
Five words…Have you met my Father?
@norman728 to true ! In a sword fight with all things being Equal Peonie’s Dad would Bring a canister of Air-sol Anthrax !!!
you don’t leave metal chains dangling over an open flame if you have to, for starters it makes handling difficult and it weakens the metal especially at the welds. the support rig is likely hanging on a rack just out of shot, once she gets the pot over there she wil hook up the chains than hang the whole thing over the fire.
Peonie is just doing what the women have always done in my life. Pretend they can’t do the heavy work (like opening pickle jars) to get me to do it. 🙂
Peonie is CERTAINLY well exercised in the art of manipulating men…
I never worked out in my entire life and I spend my entire day sitting in the office, and can lift 100kg without problems.
Also, note that the old lady is carrying it wihout any visible effort and with outstreched hands.
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Speaking of which, to answer the old layds question:
Niels nad Bhor + king.
King Urtica > Barbarians.
That’s all you need to know. Really, the question is more why hasn’t he taken over them yet. Of course, whose to say he hasn’t, and is just keeping quiet about it?
Supreme Tactics.
The better question is, why would they load up such a huge pot all the way on the other side of the room, and then carry it full, all the way over to the fire pit? They should have just put the pot on first and then tossed in the ingredients.
Meh, potatoes are overrated anyway.
Magically shrinking pots. Don’t know if the spell is on the pot or the old lady, but in panel 5 the pot is easily twice as wide as the old lady, in the last panel it is less than shoulder width. So, once she places her hands on it, it shrinks to half its former diameter, ~ 1/4 its former weight.
For those wonderuing about the pot and the tripod. Just atke alook at how many handles the pot has…3 and then at the tripod ..see those upward hooks…that is where the pot wil rest or in other words hang on. Its wight suported and dived by three bars.
Hehe given the shake lines around the old lady even her ox like strenght is having trouble carrying the pot.
@JMV actually there are two good answers as to why you fill up the pot “at the other end of the room.”
1.) Trying to fill the pot while it’s on the fire could cause damage to the pot (sudden change of temperature from cold water hitting hot metal), burn the food, or cause boiling water to splash people/ put out the fire.
2.) Trying to cut the vegetables and put them in the pot while near an open flame can and has caused severe injury and death, not to mention the danger of getting splashed with boiling water that I mentioned earlier.
It’s not likely that the Northern tribes will wait while a pot is filled with food before attempting to light the fire either since the fire is not exclusively used for cooking. The fire is also providing heat and light for the whole room.
So the old lady’s method is the most practical one for the situation.
@Azure up to the 19th century the second most common cause of death for women was burns caused by the combination of open fires and dresses.
@aRJay. That is in “civilized” places. This is the WILD NORTH. Look at the way they’re dressed. Not a single freaking corset in the place!
My question is simpler than all this math. I was totally expecting her tp have to bend over. I’m feeling a bit let down here. All that build up about “harm”, a golden opportunity, and… Nada. Will this change soon? Please?