Exiern
Swords, Sorcery, And Then Some!
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but, a pretty little thing though…not helping?
Maybe Tiff will be able to “cure” herself.
Feel the rage, Tiff. Embrace it. Let it marinade your brain.
I really really don’t want Tiff to become a flowery little thing….
If that was the ‘Bloomin’ Faeries’ mirror she’d see an exaggeraged dimuatition of what she used to be, and she’d be steamed!
If Typhan-Knee is such a misogynist that this is the only way HE can perceive women then he deserves to be stuck like that. If Tiffany is strong enough and intelligent that this is not the only option for a woman then maybe she deserves a bit of a break. It’s all down to Tiff really.
In other news, I really like that mirror frame. I would love to have a mirror like that in my house.
Jay, if that was the Bloomin’ Faeries mirror, we’d be seeing a lot less clothing…
I miss the cute bruiser TYphan-Knee this flower Tiffany goes against everything I like about TYphan-Knee.
I was going through tvtropes and I was wondering if Teresa is based off the greek prophet Tiresias aka “the blind prophet” who got gender bent by the god Hera?
And at last she sees… Now, I have three guesses, I shall reveal none of them because thus far since I’ve started commenting, none of my guesses or predictions have come completely true. (Thus, this is a good story, as I can’t predict it the way I can a lot of others).
In any case, this is going to be interesting to follow, now that she can see what’s happened.
You got to wonder: does the writer have all this planned out, or are they making this story up based on the comments posted on previous pages?
Methinks some wheels are starting to turn in our barbarian’s brain…
I seem to recall a certain rule of writing that the mirror has just proved. Well I suppose it’s understandable not to add random details.
She is going to expode!
Warper – In regards to the legend of Tiresias there is a possible connection, however, that would be more likely if one looks at the less known myth of Tiresias. The myth starts with Tiresias walking around one day and hitting at two coiled together snakes with his staff, as a result he gets turned into a woman. She becomes a priestess of Hera and mothers a lot of children, partially as a sacred prostitute, including Manto who is said to excel Tiresias in seer abilities and is beloved by Hekate.
This is where the myth splits. In the most well known version, Tiresias is walking around again after years as a woman and finds the snakes again and is turned back into a man upon hitting them. Later Zeus and Hera are having an argument (surprise…) about who enjoys sex more. Zeus claims that women enjoy it more and Hera claims the opposite. They call on Tiresias who has experiences both and Tiresias says women enjoy it more. Hera grows angry and strikes him blind at which point Zeus, who can not undo another god’s curse, grants him the ability to prophecy.
In the other less known version, that seems more like Teresa, Tiresias stays a woman for the rest of her days and never turns back into a man in the first place, mothering a generation of notable seers and individuals.
On another note, I believe it is far too late for Tiffany to go back the way she was completely. Not only was a door opened into the realm of socially-constructed femininity for her, but she finds herself enjoying it, showing primarily surprise at herself, but not disgust or rage. I think her best bet at this point is processing the facets of her personality and constructing within herself a new image of what womanhood means. However, from a post-modernist standpoint, being drenched in the demure and clever court manner of womanhood coupled with the long-standing idea of womanhood as it stands in her native culture will most likely result in a final result leaning towards the likes of those concepts of womanhood.
I feel incredibly bad for Teresa and am warmed by this strange friendship/rivalry that Tiffany and her have. It says something about Tiffany’s change when she is no longer disgusted by Teresa’s behavior as a woman but more so the fight for Denver. I see a gradual gravitation towards a similar mindset like Teresa’s in Tiffany, though subtle. The two are incredibly similar, almost two sides of the same coin, coming from different cultures mainly.
I think it would be highly unfortunate if Teresa or Tiffany were to go back to being men. I think that neither could handle it anymore. Remember, when the spell backfired and turned all the priests into women most were unhappy. Teresa, who clearly identifies her gender as a woman and probably for a long time, went with it happily, attesting the idea that there isn’t any large mental alterations in the curse’s construct. This points to Tiffany, possibly, always having a gender as a woman even before the curse for Tiffany seems at ease as a woman just struggling with what it means to be a woman.
If the curse changes her body to match her preconceptions…
She should think
happyamazon barbarian weightlifter thoughts.(No Tiff… it won’t turn you back into a man, but you might be able to choose
the type of woman you become.)
Since the priests failed to change him back, the comic has gone on a bit of a downer. 🙁 Also the refusal to change him back after so long keeps the story stubbornly centred on his situation, while many other interesting things could be focussed on instead. The comic was inspired by the Wotch (I think? it’s been a while…) and continued in that same spirit of a comedic view of gender change, which is totally fine. The recent dramatic shift, I don’t like :/
A long time ago a friend referred me to this comic because I’m tg and my friend saw the main character as a MtF person who is very strong and confident. I see them as a FtM person and I sorely wish they could just get changed back to a man, and new adventures gone on. Yeah being the gender you don’t think you should be is painful, but you can get used to it to an extent and get along ok – but it’s still painful and you’ll always want to change. Other than that, I’ve only had a single nitpick about the comic: the hero’s attraction to the scholar dork is just silly. Hormone change will not change sexual orientation. Plus I hate that scholar; he’s such a weak loser and never shuts up. <_<
I wouldn't focus on the 'poetic justice' of his misogynist views transforming the main character into his idea of a woman (weak, useless…), because in the story women come across as second class citizens in their world; therefore, many men would view them in poor light. Picking on one guy – and a hero of the land who took down an evil wizard! – doesn't exactly attack prevailaing men's misogyny in their society. … And I can't believe I just wrote all that about exiern. o_o
@Freya
Another FunFact from TvTropes:fVenus Castina (the aspect of Venus who looks after the souls of women locked in male bodies.) The Goddess responded by turning the raiders into women.
I agree with the situation of their current genders
@The Warper
Well, Venus Castina is but one of a myriad of evidence pointing to gender variant people existing throughout history. In Greek Mythology, Artemis changed a young man, Spirotes, who wandered into her spring while she was bathing into a woman since his intentions were not perverse.
Groups paying homage to Venus Castina probably bloomed during the reign of the Roman Emperor Elagabalus, who was, though incredibly eccentric and fallen to the decadence of the Roman Nobility, most likely a trans woman, once offering half of the Roman Empire to anyone who could give hir (gender neutral pronoun) female genitalia. Elagabalus also called hirself ‘madam’ and was known for hir wearing of women’s clothing and presenting as a woman.
Almost every, if not every, culture has a story regarding transformation across the socially-constructed sexes of the time. It has been around for thousands of years.
Freya pretty much hit the nail on the head in terms of my own perspective on how things will play. I suspect there will be a humorous romp with submissive-feminine Tiffany before someone figures out how to partially solve it.
I’m just bummed that learned skills don’t stay. All those years become skilled at killing and maiming wasted. This at least explains why the drinking sword misbehaved for her.
And apparently Thomas has no limitation in his views of women. Or is his spellsinging going away? It’d be cool if it was stronger now,,, after all, most traditions say women are stronger at magic. ” From the spells of smiths and women, protect me”
i feel sorry for that guy
@Kevin
I don’t believe that Teresa’s spellsinging is going away. Those with the strongest power and minds know not to show off and make use of their abilities haphazardly. Often it can be better to be seen as weak so people aren’t gunning for you 😛 Also, in Tiffany’s case she remembers how to kill and everything, we are primarily seeing a decay of physical abilities not a decay of memory. Perhaps she on instinct slapped the priest but I doubt that she has forgotten how to wield a sword.